[00:00:00] Joseph Santos Lyons: For someone who’s been following racial justice politics for a long time. I wasn’t surprised and I we’ve been seen. A more conservative backlash within the Chinese community to arrange equity measures including affirmative action which we see as problematic. And so I think some signs of this division have appeared in the years before the officer fleeing. Case in the death and the killing of a colleague early. What
[00:00:32] are some of the things that come upon two of us all. From dialogue. And I don’t know what did you do.
[00:00:43] Joseph: You know early on that when the case. Came into the public domain we were listening to other Asian-American Pacific Islander groups across the country and we have organizations that we stay in touch with who are based in New York where this was all happening. And in many ways we took the lead. We both listened to the voices of community organizers in the New York City area.